Actually one can "infringe" upon the rights of others, be those rights granted by copyright law or terms within a legally binding contract. Although I understand the distinction you are trying to make - I'm just being an ass about it :) But the important thing to note here is that there IS a legal problem. A contract (by definition) is "legally binding". Regardless of whether it is a copyright offence or an offence undedr contract law - it IS an offence. More to the point - who here thinks that DAZ will not pursue this. They have come down on others like a tonne of bricks, what makes Rendo any different? Unless there is a special agreement we have not heard about (unlikely given the uninformed comments by LilianH) between Rendo & DAZ - there is going to be trouble. Whether that results in Rendo simply pulling to figure (likely) or in DAZ actually suing Rendo (less likely given the first solution) is another matter. We have no say in the matter, correct. But we are free to state our opinions (within the bounds of the TOS). And pointing out factual errors & outright lies is within those bounds :) EK