Actually just to clearify something Jack said, Apollo >>took 6 months to do. >>I started it late October 2003, I put it down and moved, >>relaxed for a year etc. I kept track and it added up to >>about 6 months for me. 1/2 the time was in >>test,experiments and tweaks. >>Not that that matters or is relevant. Just a factoid. Hey Anton, I know that between your old job and working at DAZ that you were kept quite busy to really work on Apollo as much as you would've like too. Please understand, that I wasn't speaking ill of your abilities, because I wasn't. I was just trying to point out that there is a lot of work that goes into making a figure which you've verified in regard to your own figure... it just isn't a two month process from start to finish... there is a lot of work involved. Jack