I quite agree... whats the point of making another V3 add-on? Isnt that kinna what we all already do? (Excepting those that do their own meshes of course or that use other bases) I think u guys need to collaborate with someone who has built figures from the ground up, and even moreso, someone u can trust who isnt going to violate rules or copyright. Even this add-on biz is kinna cheezy, since it relies on DAZ's creation.... if they can build a base from the ground up, surely u guys can too. And aside from that, only then can rendo truly compete with DAZ. Least I believe. Im not really surprised it flopped... I had a bad feeling about it, as I stated in the first thread when all ths started. Im sorry tho, for those merchants that supported her are taking the heat for it, as well as Renderosity.... but it could have been avoided had rendo not jumped the gun about releasing her. :o