Thanks for the feedback everyone! vilian I'm sorry I missed on Lelu's freebie but it still wouldn't have worked in this case since I can't convert gloves with WW which is why I can't use BillyT's either since they're for V3. As I said I'm using Stephanie Petite. SamTherapy, thanks for the offer :) That was my initial solution and I did make a second skin with gloves painted on but I need to make a good displacement/bump now I guess since I'll resort to that again. Oh, well, it was worth trying :)