I didn't realise that Poser created a more dense map as it renders. But... I must be lucky 'cos I have had no problems with Firefly since SR1 for P6. I certainly find it faster to render than it would have been if it was fully modelled. I will probably only use this method as a quick form of 'modelling'. But... it is something to consider for peeps who can't model or who don't have other modelling proggies.. Mason and/or StoneMason... if the flat plane was more than just a single 4 sided poly and say subdivided into a denser grid... would the results from displacement mapping be more detailed... squarer edges, etc.....?? ziggie

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