As a member of the "moron majority," which apparently means people who find distortions of female breasts unattractive, I'd like to suggest that you make some morphs that allow you to blow up feet, collarbones, and ears, then we can find those ugly too. The idea that Judy is "ugly" is almost as moronic as the idea that a watermelon-breasted clone is "better." Judy's "ugliness" consists in part, if you read the posts about her carefully, in her vulgar resemblance to a real, human woman rather than a perpetually teen fantasy. The mesh has some problems, which is no surprise, given the miserable history of the release of P5. Why someone didn't do a fix as part of the SR process is a mystery. But those of us who prefer our women untouched by the various dream factories will continue to use her for now. As for Jennifer, perhaps the fixation is on nursing? Ummm, um, um, mah mah. Who knows? M