To anyone who's having crashes. The major factor in almost all crashes with DS is the video card, and most especially the drivers. You MUST have the latest drivers or problems are practically guaranteed. DAZ collaborate closely with Nvidia, mainly because Nvidia supports OpenGL more than ATI does. Actually, I have an ATI Radeon at the moment (with an Nvidia arriving in a few days), and I haven't had any trouble, but I've updated the drivers with every new release. I know it's really frustrating when apps crash constantly, but the latest releases of DS have been relatively trouble-free for most people. You might want to try again with a newer version. mac