stahlratte, I love the work you do. My final solution was just applying the default face room head to Judy. I nice handsom woman without any work at all. I have driven myself absolutly crazy trying to scale Judy's breasts down to a smaller size. I like the wide hip small chest "A shape" physique for much of what I do... I found it common among "life-models" I used to have access to, along with chubby pettite look, and elderly. Best heavy figure? Victoria PreTeen. Buy a package like Dawn Petite ($6.95?) or use a freebie morph or magnets to develope PT's age and play with the heavy morphs... amazing! Realistic fat distribution!!! I use a VickyPT with V2 morphs moved over as a "composit" figure. Some people like my old P4 heavy/old/young figuires... My V1 heavy figure was pulled from the store when V2 came out but I giot emails from people who wanted me to keep that and make a M2 Heavy also even after M2. I hope not to boast... but honestly I realy do get nice email about those old crappy P4 "grandparent" figures I made when the only FBM was Hero/Barbarian... mine were attempts at realistic as opposed to balloning weight. Staale double skined P4 Nude Woman figure also has great, really great, morphs and you can repoint it to the regular P4 to have normal mapping. The judy eye problem is a weird flatness I think... have not figured out what to do about it. Eternal Jusdy has great head morphs and a neat morph to male but I could never get the lips not to look EJ. I wish I could afford the $40 MorphWorld2.0 disc since it has Azura, Traveler's hi-poly Posette with all its morphs. My one complaint with the Posette varients and the V2RR and V2RR I use is the faceting in the breasts, I am not big for breasts (not part of the culture I grew up with) but I find it dificult to smooth the faceted lower edge of the breast out in post work without making a mess of it. I would sure apreciate a regrouping of the Judy chest/breasts even if it voided the few morphs available if it let me magnet properly. Breasts body-handles seem a must for a new character to me! I wonder if handles could help fix the horrible outer shoulder bulge all poser figures suffer from? Or the distended armpits when the figure is posed with arms up? Another wish item for me in a new figure would be armpit hair parts to be transmapped... esp. on a free figure... all avialable armpit hair is commercial and the transmapps are not exactly great. Armpit hair might also hide some of that underarm bend problem. I am think that the work by stahlratte and narcissus is where it is all at for me now. Anyway... narcissus and stahlratte, you are most excelent!