I don't give a rat's ass what real people look like. If I want to see real, ordinary people I go out on the street. Or look at my wide and kids. Poser is something else entirely for me, a fantasy world where I can (and everyone else can) create anyone with any appearance. Whether the characters I create look realistic is TOTALLY irrelevant. So why should anyone here care whether Poser tits or dicks or butts are 'realistic'? Come off it! If 'real' is the measure of things, we can forget all beasts, superheroes, mythology, scifi and everything else except ordinary people in ordinary clothes going to an ordinary job on an ordinary day, having ordinary arguments at the kitchen table or getting ordinarily beat up at school. Why should I or anyone else in the Poser world accept such a limitation because some jerks here at Rosity snort derisively at big tits, big muscles, sexy clothes, wild flights of fantasy, NVIATWS - or anything else they have decided not to approve of? If you don't like it, look at another image. If you want real, go out on the street or go look at your wife/husband/dog/house. Okay? This applies to neo-ultra-idiot-American conservatives, all other religious zealots, feminists, political activists, patriots, chauvinists, etc etc. Anyone who wants to decide for others, who thinks they 'know best'. I have NO patience with any such tendencies in ANYONE. And it doesn't apply to you specifically at all, Jim - I'm writing a generic text here that I will be using in the future for all such threads. There's at least 5 of these threads every week. Posts with "Just waiting for her to fall over, snark snark" and similar idiocy. Or posts that DEMAND overweight women in Poser since American women on average (and Europeans, but less so) are wayyy bigger than they should be, healthwise. Like that's got to be a norm of some sort for us all, lol. However, I do certainly agree with your view on the tiny Poser figure heads - that is the fault of the modelers who got the proportions wrong and have created a norm that most Poser users are not even aware of. I always scale up my characters' heads to 110% or more to get them to look at least reasonable. :] Fish - been here way too long, totally sick and tired of it