Marty, Have everything working and don't know what more I can do. Problem with eyes and setting a trans dial to anything other than what it's intended to be is that when a pose is applied, the setting that I have goes back to normal. I have z tran set to a minus .02 to compensate for a much larger eye. Then when a pose is used the eye goes back to it's intended setting and pops out. So I set a lock command and that's taking care of that problem. I would much rather have had another solution so that the person using the character doesn't have to go to the trouble of unlocking to pose the eyes. But this is what I'm capable of right now and it takes care of the problem.