Butterfly Fish said: >>As someone else put it, people roll their eyes and say "saw that coming," then they go back to work. << Yep, and that is the sort of apathy that I've been describing this Community as having now. The only time anyone speaks up against something that is wrong, is if it directly effects them... if it doesn't, they shrug and go back to what they were doing. Which is why nothing will change in this Community, whatever standards remain will slowly disappear because the unity that was once so heavily present and encouraged is long since gone. Jack