Oh come now. I'll be honest with you, there hasn't been one Poser-related posting I have seen yet that I shook my head and thought a poster was an idiot. We are all always learning. Sure, there are some here that blow me away, but I am sure there are things they are still learning too. If we stop asking questions, how do we continue to learn, and therefore grow? If you want someone to help you with this without the whole forum thing, and you have either MS Messenger or Yahoo (prefered since it's already open) send me a rosity IM. I'll get in touch with you. I just returned to the Poser game a couple of months ago, and I have asked for help, and been fortunate enough to recieve it, so I want to return it whenever I can. Don't be afraid to ask!