I absolutely agree with you, Barb. And I've been voting my fool head off since reading this thread. But I don't believe there is an "elitist attitude" permeating this thread. A forum is the medium wherein people can air their thoughts and opinions, isn't it? Personally, I don't ride a high horse... I prefer to perch upon a stunted donkey... so that I don't have too far to fall when someone kicks my ass. ;) Happens all the time, too. My two cents worth was only to point out that the Hot 20 doesn't seem to encompass the talent displayed in the fractal gallery the way it does in other software galleries. I have no intention of naming the people whose works I think should be profiled there but aren't (and I don't mean mine... I'm already in there and for that I'm eternally grateful and alot of the time embarassed) ... and I just feel that someone "shopping" for ideas in the fractal world and using the Hot 20 as a catalogue might well think it's not what they were hoping for. Let's get out there and vote, guys and gals... and keep an eye on the results.