LOL I guess some people just like to have a good argue either that or they just have a difficult time admitting when they may be wrong about something. I know I started this thread only out of curiosity and frustration at first, but hey now, I think I will leave the rest of it to open discussion for the rest of you and just sit back and enjoy where the rest of it goes. funny how some threads can change topic on the turn of a dime sometimes, with just a few remarks.