Finally got the link for Vue4 and I've been playing. Having fun learning the ropes. 3.1 came with some samples of others artwork and I have folders labeled Sample 1-3 in my Vue4 but there isn't anything in them, no tutorials or anything. It was a little bit of a bear to get it installed, even using the WinRAR they recommended. Got error messages on the Bitmap folder a few times and told to put in the default CD which I thought was amusing since it was a download. I reckon I'll need to drop them another note. They logged my order for 5 pretty quickly, so maybe tomorrow I'll get a message it's been shipped out. I was hoping to get it before my vacation was over as I generally don't like box items to sit on my door step for a while...tempting people with sticky fingers... I'm surprised, Terra, that you didn't drive to their office to pick it up :)