Xenophonz, I agree. Even the best clothing makers have some small poke thru in their clothing. I've always wondered what the "limit" is for something to be sellable. If the amount of poke thru on this shirt is as bad as it gets, then I don't have a problem with it. Like I said the collar group could be tweaked by hand to make it work in this picture (of course it might not look good from another angle and so require more tweaking). Or a couple of minutes of post work can solve the problem. On the other hand, if your skill level lets you add in the JCM's to solve the problem automatically, then the item would be worth even more. mike