"There are several reasons to buy ApolloMax: 1. He poses much better." Again: I've seen only absurd and unrealistic poses, I'm not interested in circus images but only in real-life ones. And David3 pretty much covers my needs. "2. The morph targets allow you to create looks that are radically different from the default face." I'm quite able to do it with D3, thanks. "3. He really fulfills the muscle gap in between M2 and M3. M2 had some limitations due to the number of morphs, M3 was merely derived from V3." I'm not interested in nude/swimsuit male renderings. "4. He has the best shoulders of any poser figure on the market." Agreed. "You will definitely love this figure. I haven't loaded up a DAZ figure in the time that I've been playing with Apollo." I'll repeat myself: Do you have any way to refund me the money if I'm not satisfied with the product? I think this is a reasonable request, 'cos I've already invested much time and money in D3...