"HI Spinner, Hmmmm, did not see a question from Kurt to answer, or I would :] Dee-Marie" I really don't believe for a moment you that you have convinced Kurt that "the ART matters" here, or that HE matters here. The only thing you have shown is "an attempt to be polite with the rabble." What I do see is what Kurt see's, a place that pretends to be about ART but really takes a lot more profit in getting a whole bunch of creative starry eyed people together in one place and seeing how much monetary flea market value can be fueled from that creativity and from so many endless hopefulls wanting to get artistically noticed. Excuse me, off to get my hair done. I'm hoping to get noticed later too and I won't if I look like a ragamuffin with split ends, fuzzies and spiders in my hair! Lol!