Personally, if I offer any starter flames (or even "proper" finished flame parms) to anyone, I do it with the understanding that they are going to make wonderful works of art out of them... and that is plenty good enough for me. I started going through a pile of Mr P's starter flames that I had downloaded from the Fractal Repository some time ago... and with only some exceptions, I would say that about 90% of those that I looked at I have had happen in random batches that Apo creates by default (or with judicious use of the included spiral scripts)... so where does "ownership" of a certain flame begin or end? Should Mr P be acknowledging the author of the spiral scripts he has used to create the starter flames... or the creator of Apo itself? OK - so in this case, some artists have admitted the fact that they may have used some of Mr P's starter flames to create some amazing images - but isn't the act of tweaking, adding a funky gradient, etc likely to change said flame enough to make it truly their own work anyways? Besides, none of the Mr P flame sets that I downloaded made any mention of having to credit Mr P for providing said starter flames... CoolBreezeLady - you have exceptional talent my friend - regardless of where the original starter flame came from. I know that you will continue to create absolutely stunning images with or without the help of certain starter flame sets... lol! T.

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