I suppose when Bill Gates was an unknown geek working in a garage, his friends thought he was a wizard. Once he became the richest man on the planet, he turned into a target. We can all bitch about MS, and half of it may be justified, but the other half is probably purely human nature. That's just the way it is. One thing that really puzzles me though is this continuously implied notion that DAZ and CL/EF are at war, despite statements from both sides to the contrary. Maybe it's another form of religious fanaticism or football fan syndrome. It must be psychologically comforting to pick a side, rah-rah them on and diss the 'enemy'. mac