"The fact is that I am a Carrara user and I have dealt with Eovia. I will discuss with users here about issues that develop whenever I wish and I will not be shutdown by those who agenda it is to promote Eovia at all costs." Glad someone is "dealing" with Eovia. I promote Eovia at all costs! In fact I went up hill both ways in the snow to deliver a boxed version of Carrara to someone. In fact I even installed it and forced them to use the software. And Info as to the TOS. You should read up on them. This comment you made to me the other day I took as offensive: Boileau: "A fool always finds a greater fool to admire him." Plus you made this comment about the person trying to find outinformation: Disraeli: "It is much easier to be critical than to be correct." Now I realize you may think you are being smart, and just had a "lets quote" day. But if you look objectively at your posts and what other people say. Most of the time you seem to come off as being rude and impolite. For instance its inappropriate to go into a Software specific forum and promote other software constantly. I understand if people ask for compatible tools, etc. But often you go out of your way to push other software on people. I frequent the AM forums at hash.com and I would never push Carrara on people simply because I think its inappropriate. And please if you have the time do us a favor and share some of the talent you possess from being such a skilled and knowledgeable AM/Carrara/Poser/Shade/etc user. I've asked you this before but you sidestepped it and completely ignored it. We would all respect you more if you demonstrated some of your technical skills. Because as of right now you just seem to show up to make inappropriate comments and rarely contribute any advice to the user besides try "this" software instead.