Incarnadine, don't take things so literally. Just because you know what the Holy Grail of art isn't doesn't mean the Holy Grail even exists. I know a car isn't a time machine but that doesn't mean a time machine exists. Those big time movies are just a few very prominent examples of what kind of 3D art is selling. Other similar but smaller-scale art of the same type is selling very well, too. No one wants a plain square building, so there is plenty of room for art there, too. Nudity does not necesarily equal porn. Sexuality CAN be a means to art but it SHOULD NOT be the ONLY one. To me, art is good when I can look at something other than the subject and still be intrigued. Sure, a vicky might be in some neat revealing clothing and lit by some advanced lighting but the chains and everything else haven't been paid that same amount of attention. I think that might be the point of this whole discussion.