I don't think it's fashionable to hate Daz. It's just that it used to be fashionable to love, love, love them. Just after the P5 release, when people were up in arms against "evil" Curious Labs, Daz was the "hero" that was going to save us with Daz Studio. "Wise visonaries" populated these boards with all kinds of rabid blather about how Daz was going to crush the evil Curious Labs Empire and bring freedom to the rest of Poserdom. These days, all that blather seems as silly as it inherently really was. It's just business folks. And now that Daz is no longer perceived as the "White Knight", you hear occasional grumbling against them, something that was unthinkable a few years ago. But Daz and Curious Labs (now known as E-Frontier) are all cool. They bring us lots of good stuff and most of us ought to just relax and enjoy. -jjsemp (who has always disliked whiners)