hi all, I finally got the updater and P4's up and running. Thanks for the help. I never even thought on the 1 gig limit, since my old machine only had 512Mb. Tomsde, Yep, I'm a merchant and need P4 for testing/compatibility. I do all assembly in P4, then move to P6 for final saves and shader work. Now to try and get some work done. mac