@suicidenation- thank you for not taking offense. Looking back I believe the issue I had was more with the degree than the sentiment of what you said! "...the time and attention to detail in general that goes into a scene. Goes back to the word artwork : if there's no work involved, it's not artwork! And in many cases, what we're seeing is a stock, nude woman character because that's how they come. It takes no "talent" or real "work" to dial some sliders around, but it takes both to do so and produce something fantastic, imaginitive, or magical..." - an excellent summation IMO. Also my personal opinion in general but sometimes wonderful accidents happen without any work and the image just is. "...but the chains and everything else haven't been paid that same amount of attention." - that bugs the hell out of me too, all aspects of an image should be the best that you can do. Good enough, isn't! In a new artist the level of craftsmanship behind the artistic vision can be excused but should evolve over time to compliment the vision in my opinion. Yes, I make erotic art as well as my more traditional works, but I always try to engage the viewer in a story or to make them think about a story. It's not enough to just have a point in time image, you must engage the viewers mind to be truly erotic. This also holds true for any work. @bryster - I know what you mean. It is not about what is seen butr about what is implied, again engaging the viewers brain (grin).

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