I reckon what is being described here is more along the lines of plagiarism than copyright infringement, my fine friend... The instance of a series of flames that are somewhat different from the original in some way - yet still have many aspects the same - that would qualify as plagiarism... if one were to be nitpicky anyways... lol! Taking the original parameters, rendering them and posting them as your own - that is copyright infringement. A subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless... and plagiarism is not against the law where I live... As for the other topic brought up (again) - I do believe there is another thread going that deals with that... shall we keep it there? Also - to the uninitiated fractal newbie - Apophysis is not so darned easy to understand or use. Yes, it is definitely easier than, say, UF, for the newbie to learn - but I can remember not so long ago when it had me totally stumped... still does sometimes... lol! Maybe people offering up starter flame sets could name their actual starter flames? Then people may remember where they've come from when they want to credit the original person who offered those flame sets? For example:- Mr P could name his starter flames "MrP-xxyyzzz" - where xx = the year, yy = the month, and zzz = the number of the flame in that particular set. It would certainly be much less confusing than the "naming system" in the sets that I've got... lol! Then again, one could write a script to rename flames inside sets... shouldn't be too difficult for some of the script guru's here... Some uniformity to the number of flames one drops in their sets wouldn't go astray either... grrr! 25 is a good number per set IMHO. T.

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