"Why not just let the topics go? you don't have to visit it and you don't have to read the posts, if it gets so bad that you are offended then don't go there." Because these sites went from being self supporting through their own contributions,to sites that are "Sponsored" by software developers and other businesses (Even non-art related sponsors). The sponsors don't like to be affiliated with un-moderated "vents raves and general madness". Well,...that is one reason anyway. I would wager, from my experience here over time, that there will never be a C&D,OT, Tavern,type of forum here. Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”