"....knight in shining armour"...hee! x2....I need a lot of "Brasso" (sorta Chrome Polish) though...LOL! If you can't find them, let me know...I think I have downloaded a stem like bamboo from one of the old Vue exchange user group before. Have to hunt for it in my missy messy hard drive. To start with, I don't even know which drive?(seven in all) :( Bill