thanxz for the tips an' links peeps. SamTherapy... slow to render..? You aint kidding. Prolly great for smokey and fancy venetian blind effects an stuff, but I don't think they will suit my need 'cos I need lots of em. Guess I will stick with my cone system. Main advantages being... speed and the fact that the light beams can be seen in preview mode, so positioning/angling them is very easy. Ob... I was gonna use fire on the ring but peeple would have complained.. so I went with the orange seaweed ;-) The fence actually is in sections, well quarters really... as is the ring, tent, seating., etc. That way peeps can use it as a whole or just work with the sections that they need. ziggie

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