wow, thanks for all the replies! Ok, i took some time to make my logo in Blender using the beziers curves witch was very easy. Even took some time to fool around with the camera/lights/textures...BUT...and there's a BUT...i can't export it so that VUE5 can import it! i have tried almost all of the export choices in Blender but VUE5 seems to have trouble reading them...again i need some tips from the experts :-) How can i make VUE5 read a file from Blender!? I'm using Mac os x 10.4 by the way...if this is any help. thanks again!