I'd just like to echo what Lyrra says and thank her (lots) for doing the repacking....and thank everyone else for explaining....Also like to add, we NEVER take a file down once its up it stays up, it may be old, it may be that old its not very good :o) but you never know when you are desperate for a Poser 3 airbed LOL.....Lots more coming Niles, i'm away this next week (but have the laptop) then i'm planning a real 3d binge, got so many ideas in my head it hurts LOL........Steve