Seriously, thank you all! I very much appreciate the comments, insights and above all your understanding expressed both here and in PMs. Tedz - Aww man, now you led them right to me. Well, I'm not going down alone ... I'm taking them with me, man!! I'm taking names and stacking the bodies 20 high, man!!! Yeah!!! manly hug Jocko - The crown of thorns, the nail wounds on the wrists and the gash in the side strongly places this in the realm of religion, I would think. That places it beyond saying it's a woman that has been tortured. -=>Donald