hey destro, many thanks are extended to you and several others who had useful tips...guess what, I finally got my image rendered!!! HAPPY DANCES ALL OVER DA PLACE it rendered perfectly at 3000x2500 and I have struggled for weeks now to get beyond the Adding Object or Rendering Shadow Map phase...and ya know what I think made a huge difference? your tip about max texture sizes...they were set at 4096 in the Firefly renderer and I changed them to 3000, matching my max render size...I think increasing my bucket size probably helped too, I set it at 128...so, thanks again! Karen :D

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