Gareee, I'm sorry that's what you got out of what I wrote. I simply felt your comparison between an experienced modeler and a novice and the time it took them to make a mesh having that much effect on the cost of a mesh. I simply can't see how you took that as personal as I haven't knocked either mesh or modeler in this thread. I just think comparing the two is apples and oranges when it comes to setting the price. I never said Pauls was over priced either for the record. I'm sorry you felt one disagreement with me was so out of line that you had to pull your freebie from my website as well. It just lends itself to giving me the opinion that you're here to grind axes. I didn't attack you, Paul or his griffon. Fact of the matter is I don't work. I live on Disability and anything I do related to computers and 3D I can't charge for or I'll loose my disability income, yet I can't make enough money doing what I do to actually live on so I understand how merchants feel. I just don't feel that justifies brow beating customers and potential customers with emotional whining and baggage about not being able to make enough money off their works. It's not good business and it's not the customer's fault. In today's economy, thanks to he who's name I will not mention for fear of starting a political thread, people don't have as much disposable income. Blame that if you want to blame something, but for cryin' out loud, stop blaming the customers for being choosy about how they spend their money.