To Mr. Yawnn I have been using Poser since 1996 and back then you didn't even have "conforming" hair. And until recently you "had" to use Photoshop or painter to be even in the ballpark to having a decent image. But now 3d artist's have an abundance of resource material for skin, hair, mesh, lights, and shaders to create almost anything in entirely in a 3d app. As an Executive Producer for 2 New Media Design companies, I can tell you a render imported into Photoshop/Painter, becomes a 2D layer based, color blended 2d image with endless possibilities and effects. This is well beyond the capacity of even a high-end 3d based app such as Maya Unlimited or 3dmax. I myself like the challenge of pure 3D rendering. I make a living with PS, so I can tell you it should be a separate category within the "Poser" Header. You just cant compare the two when youre competing for views.