I've been holding out on upgrading to P6 for a couple of reasons. First, I'm gonna need a larger hard-drive already since Poser takes up nearly all the space I have now (20 gigs), and second, I've been scanning various forums and such to see if most of the bugs are getting worked out. I also need to drop another strip of RAM in, I think, but I'm wondering if the renders don't use the graphics card instead of RAM. I used to get a "You are almost out of virtual memory" warning early on, but now I don't get that at all. The 'puter just freezes, and I'm hosed. But thanks for the reply anyhow. Spire