I have been download freebee's, and will continue, tossing what is useless to me. I have KPT and really like them. I just ordered Knockout 2. I use both Painter and Photoshop. I was interested in Fred Miranda's Digital Soft Focus. I like the effect, but wasn't sure whether or not Photoshop could do the same with the subtle changes that look natural. I'll be testing that out to compare. I'm wide open on effects, but prefer those that mix well with painting and yet make it worthwhile to use. It's hard for me to describe. I want to be able to work with photos and try collage combining my painting & photos, and using filters for different effects. My feeling is to try to keep it simple, but impacting. I agree, I'll check them out and ask if anyone as experience with that effect. Thanks so much for all the input. Suzanne