Bonni, You are missing the point. A 3d render, is a 3d render. If you import a background rendered in Bryce or Vue, it is still a 3d render, for Bryce and Vue is a 3d app, you have to use Materials, textures and basic modeling to get the desired effect. It's not so easy, few people know how to use, or try to use, shaders or materials in Poser or Bryce. The quick fix is PS. The no postwork genre would not be a threat to your "Art" it is just about 3D technique , same as skills needed to paint in PS. One form does not take away from the other. You are way too defensive.