On the flipside.... At first I didn't like Unimesh males being neutered because it made them "less manly" to me, but now I perfer it because the default figure is easier to work with and clothe, plus I don't have to use censor bars or blurs when leave them fully nude. (For example, look at the police lineup). Add-ons have the sole purpose of delivering superior realism (albiet freakishly large though) and they are far better than what comes with a default figure (which is better for realistic proportions), so you can use them when you needed and not get stuck with baggage you don't need most of the time while working in Poser. Taking out all the morphs and removing parts not needed speeds up the figure in poser, which is good. There's a reason M3 has more clothes than M2 and one of the reason maybe because M3 is easier to work with. M2 had geometry switching, neat idea, but it was a pain in the butt because he would switch on his bits without your censent on his own alot of times (lol!), and morphs on the hip would go wrong. Apollo comes natural and has no off switch, so you hide his dangly bits in the hiearchy window but then you have a gaping hole in his hip. Unimesh males don't have those problems. So if you actually put clothes on the guys, it really is better, imho. I don't have P5 or P6 so I can't offer an opinion on Don or James. That's why they aren't in the lineup. Female figures don't have the same kind of overt problem as the males, but I know I don't like looking their gentils if I don't have to. lol! I figure hetro male clothing makers think the same way about making stuff for the guy figures. lol! bB