Wolf what IS your crusade against ApolloMax. You don't own the model! You've said it isn't FOR you. OKAY! ApolloMax has been out for 1.5 months. The figure is a base, a STARTING POINT. Get one of the great poser morph gods to do some bodybuilder morphs for ApolloMax and it won't be an issue. IF things are built into a mesh it can LIMIT the model, musles built into M2 made it hard to make M2 look like a normal guy, was one of the biggest comments when the M3 wish lists started. By having a smooth mesh with good bends as a starting point it's much easyer to "addon" later on. the over used excuse that ApolloMax is no good and bad for renders because he doesn't have specific morphs is just rediculious. go look at the galleries. Capeces did a morph pack in less than a month, Rawart 2 textures now, jepe did his hairy overlays. Maybe BECAUSE ApolloMax is flexible and easy to work with. 1 1/2 months. Anton isn't really into bodybuilding, he didn't put those specific morphs into ApolloMax. the morphs that ARE in ApolloMax are suitable for comicbooks, normal guys, and big thugs. The Mesh is flexible that if someone who is into body building did morphs it wouldn't be a issue, but that doesn't make the model BAD, just means it may not be for specific users that are seeking 1 specific thing. Wolf, everytime I see your digital clone picture made with M2 I think damn wha' with the broken ribs and the garish hands with stubby fingers. anatomically correct male human?! hahaha ApolloMax has a penis and an anus. Model doesn't have competition bodybuilder morphs, get someone to make some, the mesh can handle it.