just to add my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth... i think diversity, especially diversity in male characters is great. the more male characters, and the more high-quality ones, the better. in my personal opinion, apollo lacks definition in all aspects. and that's not only for the most muscle-bound character; it's for your average guy on the street whose ribs can be seen under his skin. in general, not just muscle-wise, though notably so, apollo lacks detail and definition. i don't have to spend $50 to $100 to see that find that out: the galleries and product previews have made that abundantly clear. they've also shown a very high-density mesh and incredible joints. he's a high-quality product, no doubt. and i'm sure tons of people will do interesting things with him. he's not to my taste, and he's not to wolf's taste. i don't see why wolf should be yelled at, while the several who have posted raving about apollo before buying him should be agreed with. to each his own and all that jazz. and on the comic book hero front... i guess it depends on the comic. i'm not a huge collector (i have about 11 long boxes), and of that much is indy flavored with vertigo, though i do have some standard dc and marvel. that said, i can't think of anybody but maybe kirby back in the day and some of the more stylized, smooth flat (cartoony) black and white comics that have characters as big as apollo standard with as little definition. it seems to me, since people like byrne, kubert and mcfarlane entered on the scene, the standard is more detail in the muscles and facial features, not less. they're (by far) not my favorites, but i recognize their popularity. i have a pretty wide variety of tastes- from 80s vampirella and texeira (whose guys often weren't very bulky) to 90s dave mckean and jon muth to fairly recent developments like courtney crumrin and strangehaven. i still can't think of any style that is as realistic and as low detail as apollo is. the closest i can imagine is john van fleet, and i'd still say that he depicts more and smaller irregularities in the face, hands, and body shape than apollo has. frankly, i see more inaccurate posing and anatomical errors in comics than i do lack of detail. though, i still say this is just my opinion. i think everyone is entitled to voice theirs, especially if i vehemently disagree with them (i thrive on diversity). which, in the case of poser products, isn't worth it.