Thanks very much Marque. Tis is a least better quality than the ones I've seen, but still looks like something very lo-res, and not the hi-quality I was looking for. Maybe with a re-map and better textures....it seems that all the owls around are just massing models with a texture put on to try to cover up that they are only VRML quality. Does it even have a beak? Could you post a top and side view? It wuld be aprecieated. But I guess it looks like I'll have to try to build one on my own. James