honestly, ive gotten so used to using poser 3, and that it still does serve me very well, i havent the need for anything better... daz studio was a HUGE boost to what i can do and use, but i still havent seen the need to get a better a version... ( ( ), as there is always a but somewhere, the reason i needed poser this time was because i wanted to start making poseable models, and not until now did i have a need to upgrade... thanks...