You know what, now I'm going to get flamed but at this point ~shrug~. Did the testers, test the products???? Install/eco/mat changes/save???? Now I understand when 1st opening a site there will be difficulties, but this crap with the product is beyond the pale of understanding. Upon 1st reports of this, IMHO, the store should have been shut down, items tested WITH the ability to save/modify etc before re-opening. This is the same verbage we heard about the release of Vue 5(not V5I).....OH IT WAS ALL WORKING OK! Until people started coming out the closet to report bugs, and I can see some poor soul over at Corn3d still has the same issues most of us had upon the release. I say coming out of the closet, because it seems as though many of us our "afraid" to publicly come out & complain when indeed there are SERIOUS issues. Why you ask, some people cannot seem to admit when there are problems & I'm talking MAJOR problems not some sniveling bs. They keep saying Oh, it works fine for us, well thats all fine dandy that maybe 10 out of a hundred users are having no problems. So those complaining get snubbed & say oh its your machine etc. You get the drift. I love Vue, but I'm honest to all about its shortcomings & problems & successes. I'm not a corporate grunt/a$$ kisser nor will I ever be. Honesty up front tends to stomp out hostility & built up frustrations. Now, I'm NOT accusing you JWHitham of any of these things, so don't get all knarled up :) But Ive seen things happen not only here, but I have to deal with these types of issues all the time almost daily. And believe me, what Ive said here does not even remotely compare to what I say to our accounting software people when I discover an issue, after it is peoples money I deal with daily, cant have fubars there. Id be banned for sure LOL