I hear that dlk30341. I too deal with this daily. John are you going to avoid my questions about beta testing methods? I am not attacking you but curious as to what the beta testers do. What is the procedure? Were you able to make new plant species and save them? You said you were a beta tester openly so I feel it is fair to ask you. If you didn't want me to ask then why say you were a beta tester at all?