skimming thru all these posts, I thank you heartily for your opinion. NOW I wonder if it is legal to use any figures, textures, props if modified from the orginal, not others, but from the programs or Daz3d. I used to turns a default cat.obj into a tiger.obj based on the geometry's obj in the program. I did not create this from the scrtach, but simply reworked to chanage the entity as most canine are almost the same, quadped, cat face, paws.. I recreated the tiger in setup rom of ppp with cat figure as bone structure. So it is still not allowed to sell ? If I create one from geometrical polygon, subdiv, then... I think I steal the shape of the cat, the cat should suit me because the copyright of DNA is from the Creator of cato. Turning a A into B, if the vertice coordinates are different or the morphing make drastic change , compared to the original obj in the Geometry folder, then I can not use it for product purpose ? This is the most annoying issue I concern for years. I also succeed to turn a p4 femme into male figure , and p4 man into femme, these are not allowed for sales ? Well, if this is the case, I should abandon to make custom figures for biz. This is not stealing from others, I take it for granted as a template as biped or quadrped have their normal shapes. Don't someone make a head based on the background image of head, so this is a stealing as the head was used for this purpose ? Confused and desperated me:( cheers