Yes, i saw that post and i responded that "..they are all betas." If it was "not supposeed to be released" BECAUSE it's a beta then that makes no sense. There are no non-beta Vue 5i patch builds and never have been, AFAIK. So my question is: "Why was it not supposed to be released, and how does he know that it was not supposed to be released?" Hope that clears things up. I'm feeling pretty silly here quoting rumors from one forum to another and quoting my own quotes. I'm goin to shut up and wait for the fixes now. :o)