Well I have over $400 invested in Daz figure textures, and have invested in all the UTC Plugins for each model. $25 is a no brainer to use my existing purchased tetures as well as freebie textures. That's me. UTC for all existing plugins is $87.70 total + $25 for ApolloMax plugin if it comes would be $112.70 total price for EVERYTHING. $80.8 if you want to convert M1/2/3, v1/2/3 to ApolloMax. It really boils down to how many purchased textures do you have and if you want to keep using that investment on a different model.