Don't take it personally PJF, it's NOT directed at YOU, I have much respect for your input; I am only "trying" to help, maybe just not "idealistically correct" way too many times ;-) I just don't want folks to be afraid to "create" for fear of too many things that may not be warranted. I am NOT speaking of making counterfiet Barbie Dolls or duplicates of Jar Jar and selling them and getting George possibly closing the forums, I understand. I also know people should REALIZE that they can't just take whatever they download in freestuff, or even BUY for that matter, and then resell it as there own, or change the clothes or hair and do same. Some things should be left for just ARTwork period, because that is ALL that permission is given for, and many times even that is just for personal useage unless we ASK otherwise and get told different. But a LOT of things created are based, or made, from the tools that are already made available to us in the form of the poser package we start out with. I see a lot of folks making, (and also donating money), they recieve in various ways. Many DO make their own "from scratch" items, but I am sure you TOO know many also "enhance" what is already there to make it something "new" for all of us to enjoy with poser. If by going according to specifications allowed by Zygote/Daz, so many can and DO do this, others should be aware they can too. Talk to someone that knows the rules, and enjoy the possibilties ;-)