OK Snowsultan could be my mistake, the ones that I can remember that is the way it worked but perhaps I am mistaken. I have been using Mainly Carrara (RayDream) for the past 15 years. Miss Nancy the first one is finished and here it is :-) This is the first of my tutorials for creating models in Carrara to be used in poser as the basis of a prop or figure. This is just the low res version (it's still 5 megs) the highres version and the supporting files will be bosted on Monday. The tutorail finished with adding textures that are supose to be with the file but are not there because they will be posted on Monday. But any square wood texture can be used or you can use Poser 5 or 6 materials if you are using P5 or 6. Other than that the tutorial is complete. It can be grabbed of my site using this link http://www.freewebs.com/mapps/downloadstutorial.htm or by pasting this link into your browser. http://webzoom.freewebs.com/mapps/TUT%201%20Low%20Res.zip If you have any questions or comments post them here in this thread :-)